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Postby Kuso » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:59 am

I got snowed on this one. I was steaming a bit, so I decided to play it safe. The Villain, a losing player, decided to flash me his stone-cold bluff (actually, a gutter draw).

Thanks... you're now on the top of my buddy list!

Anyway, was this way too weak-tight?

$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: Leporello1 ( $46.60 )
Seat 6: kate69 ( $62.69 )
Seat 9: DockGM ( $46.25 )
Seat 1: Raven99 ( $6.50 )
Seat 5: solde111 ( $9.60 )
Seat 8: ratfarts123 ( $0 )
Seat 3: Hero ( $25 )
Seat 10: mickeychiu01 ( $13.25 )
Seat 7: bobrobert45 ( $14.65 )
Seat 4: sukoutdotcom ( $8 )
bobrobert45 posts small blind [$0.10].
DockGM posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Td Js Tc Jc ]
ratfarts123: ouch
mickeychiu01 raises [$0.85].
Raven99 calls [$0.85].
Leporello1 calls [$0.85].
Hero calls [$0.85].
sukoutdotcom folds.
solde111 folds.
kate69 calls [$0.85].
bobrobert45 folds.
DockGM folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 7d, 9c ]
mickeychiu01 checks.
Raven99 checks.
Leporello1 checks.
Hero bets [$4].
kate69 folds.
mickeychiu01 calls [$4].
Raven99 folds.
Leporello1 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
mickeychiu01 is all-In.
Hero folds.
mickeychiu01 shows [ 6d, Ah, Jh, Qs ] high card ace.
mickeychiu01 wins $20.40 from the main pot with high card ace.
There was no qualifying low hand.
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Postby briachek » Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:14 am

I don't know if I would fold this as if he has the straight, he had it on the flop and why would someone check call the flop to lead out the turn? I put him on the flush draw with some sort of other mediocre hand and I close my eyes and call.
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Postby GooperMC » Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:45 pm

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Postby Xaston » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:51 pm

You should practice reading the board if you think all this guy has is a gutshot.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:07 pm

Ignoring your opponents hand, you have 10 outs to the boat, and 44 cards unseen. So you need the bet to be somewhere between a fifth and a quarter of the total final pot to be +EV to call. You have to call $8.40 into a final pot of $29 ish, meaning you don't really quite have odds to call. However, factor in the random idiot factor, and the fact that he raised preflop (so a straight seems less likely - a PFR makes middle cards like 8s and 6s less believable) and that probably swings you the few extra bucks of equity required to call. If you had a goon-ish read on this opponent calling becomes more and more attractive!
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Postby Kuso » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:11 pm

indeed

actually, i was really tired when i posted this, and i had just made a lot of posts, so i wasn't really being careful. i was pissed that all he had was A-high. anyway, i see now that he has the flush draw and OESD -- i still should have called.
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