AAxx check raise

[briachek]

***** Hand History for Game 2864317953 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Wed Oct 26 19:07:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 36658 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: trrt8 ( $24.15)
Seat 2: briachek4 ( $25.35)
Seat 3: SpicyE ( $21.40)
Seat 4: Wilbe888 ( $19.10)
Seat 5: apollon1963 ( $46.14)
Seat 6: disciple1234 ( $12.10)
Seat 8: blacson ( $20.15)
Seat 9: Groovy_Mule ( $18.57)
Groovy_Mule posts small blind (0.10)
trrt8 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek4 [ Ah, 3c, 7h, As ]
briachek4 calls (0.25)
SpicyE raises (1.10) to 1.10
Wilbe888 calls (1.10)
disciple1234 folds.
Groovy_Mule folds.
trrt8 folds.
briachek4 calls (0.85)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ks, 9h, 8h ]
briachek4 checks.
SpicyE bets (3.50)
Wilbe888 calls (3.50)
briachek4 raises (17.50) to 17.50
SpicyE calls (14)
Wilbe888 calls (14)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
briachek4 bets (6.75)
briachek4 is all-In.
SpicyE calls (2.80)
SpicyE is all-In.
Wilbe888 calls (0.50)
Wilbe888 is all-In.

before results are revealed, do you like it or not? I got overpair and flush draw.

[Kuso]

[GooperMC]

I wouldn't mind it against the pre-flop raiser, but I don't like it because of the caller in the middle. I think with the caller in the middle your fold equity is severly reduced and you are lucky you have 40% of the PE.

[Felonius_Monk]

[briachek]

Result

** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
briachek4 bets (6.75)
briachek4 is all-In.
SpicyE calls (2.80)
SpicyE is all-In.
Wilbe888 calls (0.50)
Wilbe888 is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
Creating Main Pot with $54.80 with Wilbe888
Creating Side Pot 1 with $4.45 with SpicyE
Creating Side Pot 2 with $3.95 with briachek4
** Summary **
Main Pot: $54.80 | Side Pot 1: $4.45 | Side Pot 2: $3.95 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Ks 9h 8h 5c Qs ]
briachek4 balance $3.95, bet $25.35, collected $3.95, lost -$21.40 [ Ah 3c 7h As ] [ a pair of aces -- Ah,As,Ks,Qs,9h ]
SpicyE balance $4.45, bet $21.40, collected $4.45, lost -$16.95 [ Ts 8d 9c 7c ] [ two pairs, nines and eights -- Ks,9c,9h,8d,8h ]
Wilbe888 balance $54.80, bet $19.10, collected $54.80, net +$35.70 [ Th Kc Kd Js ] [ a straight, nine to king -- Ks,Qs,Js,Th,9h ]

Spicy then goes on to yell at my postflop raise since i didn't raise preflop. I didn't know the other guy so I didn't realize how passive he was. I lost but I still think this play is good, but I guess against people that can fold more hands.

[Felonius_Monk]

Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing Ks 9h 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 3c Ah 7h 212 31.83 454 68.17 0 0.00 0.318
Ts 9c 7c 8d 83 12.46 573 86.04 10 1.50 0.132
Js Kc Kd Th 361 54.20 295 44.29 10 1.50 0.550


SpicyE's call after your raise was pretty dreadful IMO.

I still don't mind your play, because someone had a set (worst case scenario) and you were still about neutral EV to get your money in. If you're up against two pair heads up you're about a cointoss:

Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9h 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 3c Ah 7h 413 50.37 407 49.63 0 0.00 0.504
5s 5c Kd 9d 407 49.63 413 50.37 0 0.00 0.496

Against two pair plus the manky straight draw/two pair combo, you're looking very good indeed:

Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing Ks 9h 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 3c Ah 7h 270 40.54 396 59.46 0 0.00 0.405
5s 5c Kd 9d 208 31.23 458 68.77 0 0.00 0.312
Ts 9c 7c 8d 188 28.23 478 71.77 0 0.00 0.282

Factor in the fold equity, plus the possibility of getting your money all in vs a draw, even a good one:

Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9h 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 3c Ah 7h 429 52.32 391 47.68 0 0.00 0.523
7s Jc Qh Th 391 47.68 429 52.32 0 0.00 0.477

Or, more likely, a mediocre one:

Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9h 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 3c Ah 7h 511 62.32 309 37.68 0 0.00 0.623
5s Jc Td 8d 309 37.68 511 62.32 0 0.00 0.377

Even if you run into a set heads up it's not a disaster:

Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9h 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 3c Ah 7h 279 34.02 541 65.98 0 0.00 0.340
9c 6c 9d 6d 541 65.98 279 34.02 0 0.00 0.660

The play is, of course, much better if these are the sort of players who can fold hands, especially decent ones with significant equity against your holding like bottom set or top two pair to your raise. I would think this would be a very solid play on a typical 200 table, though I'm not always that swashbuckling!

[briachek]

A little revenge on that guy. Wonder if he likes that check raise now?

***** Hand History for Game 2865954782 *****
poulbot91 has left the table.
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Fri Oct 28 18:38:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 36964 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Vince784 ( $25)
Seat 2: majnooniee ( $3.98)
Seat 3: SneakyMF7 ( $20.40)
Seat 4: WindsOfWar20 ( $32.75)
Seat 5: SpicyE ( $22.50)
Seat 6: jleech8826 ( $11.07)
Seat 7: PleasentWinn ( $26.30)
Seat 8: briachek4 ( $24.75)
Seat 10: mikaelita ( $24.25)
PleasentWinn posts small blind (0.10)
briachek4 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek4 [ 3c, Ac, 3h, Ah ]
mikaelita folds.
majnooniee calls (0.25)
SneakyMF7 folds.
WindsOfWar20 calls (0.25)
SpicyE raises (1.35) to 1.35
jleech8826 calls (1.35)
PleasentWinn folds.
briachek4 calls (1.10)
majnooniee calls (1.10)
WindsOfWar20 calls (1.10)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9d, Jc, 5c ]
briachek4 checks.
majnooniee bets (2.63)
majnooniee is all-In.
WindsOfWar20 folds.
SpicyE calls (2.63)
jleech8826 calls (2.63)
briachek4 raises (19.70) to 19.70
SpicyE calls (17.07)
jleech8826 calls (7.09)
jleech8826 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $16.52 with majnooniee
Creating Side Pot 1 with $20.22 with jleech8826
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3d ]
briachek4 bets (3.70)
briachek4 is all-In.
SpicyE calls (1.45)
SpicyE is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ 7d ]
Creating Side Pot 2 with $21.76 with SpicyE
Creating Side Pot 3 with $2.25 with briachek4
** Summary **
Main Pot: $16.52 | Side Pot 1: $20.22 | Side Pot 2: $21.76 | Side Pot 3: $2.25 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 9d Jc 5c 3d 7d ]
majnooniee balance $16.52, bet $3.98, collected $16.52, net +$12.54 [ Jd Td 7c 6c ] [ a flush, jack high -- Jd,Td,9d,7d,3d ]
SpicyE balance $0, lost $22.50 [ Qc 9c 8c Qs ] [ a pair of queens -- Qc,Qs,Jc,9d,7d ]
jleech8826 balance $0, lost $11.07 [ 7h 8h Kc 9s ] [ two pairs, nines and sevens -- Jc,9s,9d,7h,7d ]
briachek4 balance $44.23, bet $24.75, collected $44.23, net +$19.48 [ 3c Ac 3h Ah ] [ three of a kind, threes -- Jc,9d,3c,3h,3d ]

I thought about reraising preflop but didn't like my position. I knew he would be the flop and went for the check raise and this time he called me with Q's and the flush draw. I lost the main pot due to running flush but made money overall.