Moving up to PLO8 $100

[GooperMC]

[Felonius_Monk]

Be really lucky. Play your best game, don't tilt, don't play scared. And good luck!

[GooperMC]

[JDLush]

[Felonius_Monk]

Lots of good advice, some of which I really need to heed

[JDLush]

Sorry, the converter sucks balls.

Here's an example of what you will encounter at the PLO8 $100 tables.

PVMike hasn't been there long, played every hand he's seen and shown down some crap. Anyone else play it differently?

***** Hand History for Game 3005519424 *****
$100 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Tuesday, November 08, 22:35:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 69126 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: pvmike ( $48.80 )
Seat 3: BurdTurglar ( $85.23 )
Seat 4: cerlig ( $101.57 )
Seat 5: FIASCOLLC ( $97 )
Seat 6: mac28 ( $98 )
Seat 8: bigbelly6 ( $68.94 )
Seat 9: QuangT ( $15.25 )
Seat 10: thuhuong ( $90.50 )
Seat 1: iowa_bluff ( $24.26 )
Seat 7: elkabong33 ( $105 )
cerlig posts small blind [$0.50].
FIASCOLLC posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BurdTurglar [ Qs 3h Ah Js ]
mac28 calls [$1].
elkabong33 calls [$1].
bigbelly6 folds.
QuangT folds.
iowa_bluff folds.
pvmike raises [$5.50].
BurdTurglar calls [$5.50].
cerlig calls [$5].
FIASCOLLC folds.
mac28 calls [$4.50].
elkabong33 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Kd, 5c ]
cerlig checks.
mac28 checks.
pvmike bets [$22.80].
BurdTurglar raises [$45.60].
cerlig folds.
mac28 folds.
pvmike is all-In [$20.50]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
BurdTurglar shows [ Qs, 3h, Ah, Js ] a pair of tens.
pvmike shows [ Qd, Jd, Kh, 7h ] two pairs, kings and tens.
BurdTurglar wins $2.30 from side pot #1 with a pair of tens.
pvmike wins $107.60 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and tens.
There was no qualifying low hand.

[GooperMC]

I would probabliy just call. You don't have any fold equity and you are about even with the crappiest of hands.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1335044
pokenum -o8 qs 3h ah js - qd 8d kh 7h -- th kd 5c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 5c Kd Th
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Qs Js Ah 3h 369 410 402 8 129 0 0 0.546
Qd 8d Kh 7h 293 402 410 8 81 48 0 0.454

I would call and hope that he checks if I miss my draw so I can check behind and see a free river. Overall you are going to be just about a coin flip with most hands so I don't think it matters all that much.

[JDLush]

Well, I have 13 outs twice, plus a backdoor low draw (not realizing that he has 2 of my outs, which skews it a hair towards him). I'm not sure I agree with the lack of fold equity. He has put 27 into the pot and has his last 20 left. If he was playing a decent hand (ok, let's just imagine that for fantasy's sake) like an A2 or A2wheelX, there is still a decent chance he'll fold - not sure how much, but 1 in 5 really skews it toward me.

I also don't think a 55/45 edge is a coin flip, not in Omaha. That's the kind of edge that you have to push I think. I'd be interested to hear other thoughts on that, however.

[Kuso]