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Postby Tepshen73 » Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:24 am

What are implied odds?
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:33 pm

Implied odds refer to what you could project that you will win if you hit your hand.

Lets say that you have 66. You have $100 and a guy who also has $100 raises to $5.
You can figure that he has a high pair or maybe AK. You call with your 66 because although you may be behind now, you know if you hit a set of 6's youre going to win a big pot.
If the flop comes A62 and he has AK, youre going to win a big pot, maybe take his whole stack if he cant let go of his top pair top kicker
Or if the flop is J62 and he has AA or KK, you are libel to take his entire $100
So although your actual odds of hitting a set are 7.5-1, your implied odds can be as high as 20-1 if you get his whole stack, so its correct to call.

Another example: You have [8s][7s]. The flop comes [Ah][9s][6d].
The pot is $4. Someone bets $4. Someone else calls $4. There is now $12 in the pot. You are getting 3-1 to call $4 which is lower than the actual odds of hitting a straight on the next card, but the call is correct to make because you have large implied odds (if the opponents have enough money) if you hit your straight.

If a ten or 5 hits the turn, you will win a big pot because you will have the nuts and it will be pretty well disguised. So you can project how much you might win based on how much money the other players have in front of them. That is implied odds.
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Postby Mroberts3 » Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:38 pm

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Two cents

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Postby Rhound50 » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:03 am

MRoberts implied odds are never going to be exact. You flop you set 1 in 7.5 but still there will be times when you flop a set and have the worst hand. The trick is to always leave yourself some room. Calling a bet with a 5:1 dog when you are getting 5:1 implied odds will kill you since you are breaking even when you hit and you wont get his whole stack everytime. Unlike pot odds in limit, implied odds in NL are not an exact science. In limit its really easy to say there are 8 BB in the pot and I have to call one more to see my 4:1 flush draw.
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Postby k3nt » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:45 am

Nicely said, rhound.

Implied odds can only rarely be calculated exactly. In general, the way I tend to think is pretty general. "My pot odds don't QUITE justify a call, but I know that if I hit I will get a bunch more than what's in the pot right now. I don't know exactly how much more, but I know it's quite a bit and that it will more than make up for the small amount by which my current pot odds are too small to chase."

The danger with the concept of implied odds is that you may talk yourself into making a bad call. "I can get a bunch if I hit" -- well, yes, but you also may not get that bunch, and even if you do it may not be enough to justify your call.
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