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Postby MHFlush » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:13 am

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Postby MHFlush » Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:29 am

Here are the 5 Hands where I lost the most money. Please comment....

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HAND 1:

** Dealing card to OMAHA-Learner: [Kc] [3h] [Ah] [7h]

madamdefarge called - $0.10

OMAHA-Learner called - $0.10

housewife called - $0.10

bgw01 folded

BUDSS folded

just_true called - $0.10

king0431 checked

snoopy7 folded

wfo called - $0.10

ttw checked



** Dealing the flop: [5h] [As] [8h]

wfo checked

ttw checked

madamdefarge checked

OMAHA-Learner bet - $0.75

housewife went all-in - $1.70

just_true called - $1.70

king0431 folded

wfo folded

ttw folded

madamdefarge called - $1.70

OMAHA-Learner called - $1.70



** Dealing the turn: Ace of Diamonds [Ad]

madamdefarge went all-in - $5.24

OMAHA-Learner called - $5.24

just_true called - $5.24



** Dealing the river: [Ts]

OMAHA-Learner checked

just_true checked

madamdefarge shows: [5d] [Js] [Ac] [9s]

housewife shows: [Jh] [3d] [4c] [3c]

just_true shows: [2d] [4d] [Kh] [7c]

madamdefarge wins $3.63 from the main pot

madamdefarge wins $11.49 from side pot 1

just_true wins $3.62 from the main pot

just_true wins $11.48 from side pot 1






HAND 2:

** Dealing card to OMAHA-Learner: [3d] [Ad] [Ks] [Ac]

fariopitou called - $0.10

llaca1 folded

reco7 folded

soadwes1 folded

OMAHA-Learner raised - $0.45

Fanch called - $0.45

kiddeb1 folded

BUDSS folded

fariopitou called - $0.45



** Dealing the flop: [Js] [7d] [8h]

fariopitou checked

OMAHA-Learner checked

Fanch checked



** Dealing the turn: [7c]

fariopitou checked

OMAHA-Learner bet - $1.50

Fanch called - $1.50

fariopitou folded



** Dealing the river: Queen of Hearts [Qh]

OMAHA-Learner checked

Fanch bet - $0.40

OMAHA-Learner called - $0.40

Fanch shows: [Qd] [9c] [5h] [7s]

Fanch wins $5.00 from the main pot





Hand 3:

** Dealing card to OMAHA-Learner: [6c] [3d] [As] [Qh]

beanie414 called - $0.10

OMAHA-Learner called - $0.10

TIENSTOI folded

stardustni25 called - $0.10

mpqm called - $0.10

__Floh__ called - $0.10

ganesha6666 checked



** Dealing the flop: [5c] [Ad] [2d]

__Floh__ checked

ganesha6666 bet - $0.20

beanie414 called - $0.20

OMAHA-Learner called - $0.20

stardustni25 called - $0.20

mpqm folded

__Floh__ folded



** Dealing the turn: [Qd]

ganesha6666 bet - $0.50

beanie414 folded

OMAHA-Learner called - $0.50

stardustni25 called - $0.50



** Dealing the river: [7d]

ganesha6666 bet - $1.00

OMAHA-Learner called - $1.00

stardustni25 called - $1.00

ganesha6666 shows: [Kd] [9s] [Jd] [9h]

stardustni25 shows: [9c] [3c] [6d] [4c]

stardustni25 wins $2.80 from the main pot

ganesha6666 wins $2.80 from the main pot




Hand 4:

OMAHA-Learner posted the big blind - $0.10



** Dealing card to OMAHA-Learner: [9h] [Th] [Qs] [9d]

Fanch called - $0.10

xxSWEETONExx called - $0.10

fariopitou called - $0.10

TxBlueBonnet called - $0.10

reco7 called - $0.10

Palindrom called - $0.10

OMAHA-Learner checked



** Dealing the flop: [Jc] [2s] [Ah]

Palindrom checked

OMAHA-Learner checked

Fanch checked

xxSWEETONExx checked

fariopitou checked

TxBlueBonnet checked

reco7 checked



** Dealing the turn: [Kh]

Palindrom checked

OMAHA-Learner bet - $0.70

Fanch called - $0.70

xxSWEETONExx folded

fariopitou called - $0.70

TxBlueBonnet called - $0.70

reco7 folded

Palindrom folded



** Dealing the river: [2h]

OMAHA-Learner checked

Fanch checked

fariopitou checked

TxBlueBonnet bet - $0.40

OMAHA-Learner called - $0.40

Fanch folded

fariopitou folded

TxBlueBonnet shows: [2d] [Kd] [Ks] [Td]

OMAHA-Learner mucks:

TxBlueBonnet wins $4.05 from the main pot






HAND 5:

** Dealing card to OMAHA-Learner: [7s] [Qc] [As] [2h]

fariopitou folded

TomLea folded

Tomatillo folded

OMAHA-Learner called - $0.10

Mrge folded

bgw01 called - $0.10

banco04 called - $0.10

ttw called - $0.10

just_true checked



** Dealing the flop: [Js] [Ks] [Td]

ttw checked

just_true checked

OMAHA-Learner bet - $0.50

bgw01 folded

banco04 folded

ttw called - $0.50

just_true folded



** Dealing the turn: [2s]

ttw checked

OMAHA-Learner bet - $0.50

ttw went all-in - $0.30

ttw shows: [Kd] [Qs] [Kc] [Qd]



** Dealing the river: [Ts]

ttw wins $1.95 from the main pot
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Postby Kuso » Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:39 am

FWIW, i think it's easier if you start new posts and put one hand per post. anyway...

hand 1
dump on the turn... you're most likely drawing dead to the last A or a K for the high and your low draw is no good. odds (odds or implied) don't justify anything else.

hand 2
bet the flop and dump to heat (likely a str8 or wrap). the turn, as played, is tough. i would be tempted to dump it, as you are likely drawing dead to an A for the high and your low is counterfeitable and not the nuts.

hand 3
i would probably dump this one pf unless it was folded to me in LP and i would raise to try to isolate one of the blinds or steal the blinds. on the flop, three wheel cards and you don't have the wheel... yuck. on the turn, with a flush out and a family pot, it's time to dump. you are drawing to very few outs for what will most likely be half the pot.

hand 4
i think you played it well. what else can you do? that's omaha. at least he didn't really punish you on the river. fwiw, i probably would have folded on the river for two reasons: 1) i am not last to act, and it is possible that someone is trapping and will raise behind me, and 2) with four people in the pot, you've got to be thinking that someone has a boat. i think it's a really good crying call if you close the action.

hand 5
plain vanilla suckout. you played it well.


hope this helps.
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Postby Kuso » Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:45 am

sorry... forgot this.

some overall analysis:

- you've been sucked out on (2 of 5 of the example)... that's o8 with the fishies.

- you seem to overvalue middling hands like 2pr on a scary board (e.g., paired or flush).

- you seem to value non-nut hands in multiway pots. this is a big leak in omaha games.
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Postby MHFlush » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:31 am

Kuso,
thanks for your analysis. I agree...

Two additional questions:

1.) Do you fold A2xx in EP? In limit I would play it. Would you play A2sxx or A3sxx in EP?

2.) You wrote
'You seem to overvalue middling hands like 2pr on a scary board (e.g., paired or flush).' Where did you see this? Which hand?

Regards, MHFlush
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