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Calling all in on flop with AA

Postby briachek » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:50 pm

50PLO on stars. opponent had been raising ALOT the last 2 rounds after he took some decently bad beats so he looks to be tilting some and its very hard for us to put him on a hand since he's basically playing and raising every hand.

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MP1 ($29.70)
MP2 ($23.50)
Hero ($164.05)
CO ($50)
Button ($17.55)
SB ($46.25)
BB ($64.35)
UTG ($21.05)
UTG+1 ($42.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with [As], [Ac],[8h] ,[3d] . CO posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, CO (poster) checks, Button raises to $3.75, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $3.25, MP1 calls $3.25, Hero calls $3.25, CO folds.

Flop: ($19.75)[Kc] ,[8s] ,[2s] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets $13.8 (All-In), SB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero ???

Pot is about $33 for you to call almost $14 into. I close the action. I woulding think about think about it if he wasn't tilting AND i close the action. Do you call knowing you probably won't be that far ahead if you do but get about 2.5:1 on your money.
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Postby JDLush » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:04 pm

Not being a PLO High guy, I wonder why you flat call preflop rather than potting then and there? If you plan on calling a big bet on the flop regardless, why not get it in earlier? Especially on a flop like that one, which is not exactly the most favorable (although you could well be ok here unless he has KK).

All that being said, I'd probably call it, if he has 2 pair you aren't dead yet and he might be on a flush draw with some high card str8 outs.
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Postby mapleleaf » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:22 pm

AA with no draw and the villian is betting..fold it.

Despite your belief that he is tilting, live to fight another day, when you flop *something*
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Postby briachek » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:14 pm

I didn't reraise preflop because its just naked aces. I know I can get a big chunk of my stack in but with little support, I'd rather see the flop first.
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Postby Ojingo » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:14 pm

Reraise preflop; fold flop.
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Postby briachek » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:21 pm

well if i reraise preflop, i'm would be in a position to push my whole stack on that flop. At that point, i would have the short stack all in preflop so unless i get another caller, no flop decision is made. If I do get a caller, would you not push that flop?
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Postby Ojingo » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:38 pm

The problem on the flop is the people left to act. If it was just you and the button you can call. But now you have people behind you who counted on the button to push, and who are ready to raise with their sets, two pairs, big draws or what. You don't want to get caught in the middle with your overpair. If you were very sure that a push could make them all fold, then you could try.
If you reraise preflop you limit the field, and push almost any flop.

Now that I think of it, if the button is really on tilt, you can reraise the minimum preflop. He will probably push in, and then you can get it all in preflop. You have to be pretty sure that he will push though, since everyone at the table will now know what you have.

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Postby mapleleaf » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:25 pm

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Postby Ojingo » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:52 pm

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