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Postby Xaston » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:55 pm

As you may or may not know, shorthanded limit hold em (my current stomping ground) has been treating me like shit so I decided to go back to my roots just for a bit of a change of pace today, and I played some PLO. I played PLO for regularly at the $100 tables on partypoker when $100 was the biggest they offered. I haven't played with any consistency AT ALL since then, so I figured I'd be a bit rusty. I played some $400 PLO and went 0-3 with top set but still managed to squeek out a tiny profit. I would like thoughts on the following hands.

***** Hand History for Game 3195042867 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Tuesday, December 13, 16:27:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 68969 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: Saybia ( $150.55 )
Seat 6: denno88 ( $915.60 )
Seat 3: Xaston ( $890.42 )
Seat 4: sookie1 ( $697.45 )
Seat 1: mc_raven ( $121.80 )
Seat 2: Ghendrik ( $394 )
Xaston posts small blind [$2].
sookie1 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ 3d 7d 5d 8d ]
Saybia folds.
denno88 folds.
mc_raven folds.
Ghendrik folds.
Xaston calls [$2].
sookie1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 2h, 8h ]
Xaston checks.
sookie1 bets [$7.60].
Xaston calls [$7.60].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
Xaston checks.
sookie1 bets [$22.05].
Xaston calls [$22.05].
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
Xaston checks.
sookie1 bets [$64.30].
Xaston calls [$64.30].


***** Hand History for Game 3195038674 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Tuesday, December 13, 16:26:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 68969 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: Saybia ( $150.55 )
Seat 6: denno88 ( $915.60 )
Seat 3: Xaston ( $841.02 )
Seat 4: sookie1 ( $737.85 )
Seat 1: mc_raven ( $131.80 )
Seat 2: Ghendrik ( $396 )
Ghendrik posts small blind [$2].
Xaston posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ Td 8s Jc Ks ]
sookie1 raises [$10].
Saybia folds.
denno88 folds.
mc_raven calls [$10].
Ghendrik folds.
Xaston calls [$6].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 9h, 6s ]
Xaston bets [$30.40].
sookie1 calls [$30.40].
mc_raven folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
Xaston bets [$89.80].


***** Hand History for Game 3195010917 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Tuesday, December 13, 16:20:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 68969 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: Saybia ( $151.90 )
Seat 6: denno88 ( $895.20 )
Seat 3: Xaston ( $721.87 )
Seat 4: sookie1 ( $748.70 )
Seat 2: amygeyer1 ( $749.50 )
Seat 1: mc_raven ( $132.60 )
Xaston posts small blind [$2].
sookie1 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ Ad Ah 4d 9c ]
Saybia calls [$4].
denno88 folds.
mc_raven folds.
amygeyer1 raises [$9].
Xaston calls [$7].
sookie1 folds.
Saybia calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Kd, Qc ]
Xaston bets [$29.45].
Saybia folds.
amygeyer1 calls [$29.45].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
Xaston checks.
amygeyer1 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
Xaston bets [$86.90].
amygeyer1 calls [$86.90].


***** Hand History for Game 3195005620 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Tuesday, December 13, 16:19:20 EDT 2005
Table Table 68969 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: Saybia ( $207.70 )
Seat 6: denno88 ( $895.20 )
Seat 3: Xaston ( $611.27 )
Seat 4: sookie1 ( $748.70 )
Seat 2: amygeyer1 ( $751.50 )
Seat 1: mc_raven ( $188.40 )
amygeyer1 posts small blind [$2].
Xaston posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ As Qc Tc Kc ]
sookie1 folds.
Saybia raises [$14].
denno88 folds.
mc_raven calls [$14].
amygeyer1 folds.
Xaston calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 5d, Jd ]
Xaston bets [$41.80].
Saybia calls [$41.80].
mc_raven calls [$41.80].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
Xaston checks.
Saybia checks.
mc_raven checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
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Xaston bets [$75].


***** Hand History for Game 3194993859 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Tuesday, December 13, 16:16:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 68969 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: Saybia ( $211.70 )
Seat 6: denno88 ( $884.20 )
Seat 3: Xaston ( $601.17 )
Seat 4: sookie1 ( $717.50 )
Seat 2: amygeyer1 ( $777.50 )
Seat 1: mc_raven ( $217.40 )
Saybia posts small blind [$2].
denno88 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ 4s 5h 3h 3s ]
mc_raven calls [$4].
amygeyer1 calls [$4].
Xaston calls [$4].
sookie1 folds.
Saybia calls [$2].
denno88 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 2h, Kh ]
Saybia checks.
denno88 checks.
mc_raven bets [$19].
amygeyer1 folds.
Xaston calls [$19].
Saybia folds.
denno88 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
mc_raven checks.
Xaston checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
mc_raven checks.
Xaston checks.


***** Hand History for Game 3194938503 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Tuesday, December 13, 16:04:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 68969 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: Saybia ( $715.35 )
Seat 6: denno88 ( $877 )
Seat 3: Xaston ( $430.02 )
Seat 4: sookie1 ( $463.60 )
Seat 1: baskania ( $77.40 )
Seat 2: amygeyer1 ( $392 )
amygeyer1 posts small blind [$2].
Xaston posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ 3c Ad 6h As ]
sookie1 raises [$14].
Saybia calls [$14].
denno88 folds.
baskania calls [$14].
amygeyer1 folds.
Xaston calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 6s, 6d ]
Xaston checks.
sookie1 bets [$30].
Saybia calls [$30].
baskania is all-In [$63.40]
Xaston raises [$305.30].


***** Hand History for Game 3195076798 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Tuesday, December 13, 16:35:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 68969 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: Saybia ( $0 )
Seat 6: denno88 ( $1070.75 )
Seat 3: Xaston ( $800.27 )
Seat 4: sookie1 ( $702.45 )
Seat 1: mc_raven ( $172.80 )
Seat 2: Ghendrik ( $411.70 )
Ghendrik posts small blind [$2].
Xaston posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ 8c Jd Kd Kc ]
Saybia has left the table.
sookie1 raises [$8].
denno88 could not respond in time.(disconnected)
denno88 folds.
mc_raven calls [$8].
Ghendrik calls [$6].
Xaston raises [$36].
sookie1 calls [$32].
mc_raven calls [$32].
Ghendrik folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, Qs, Ac ]
Xaston checks.
sookie1 bets [$30].
mc_raven is all-In [$132.80]
Xaston folds.

***** Hand History for Game 3195105062 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Tuesday, December 13, 16:41:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 68969 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 6: denno88 ( $1054.75 )
Seat 3: Xaston ( $785.37 )
Seat 4: sookie1 ( $474.45 )
Seat 1: mc_raven ( $373.60 )
Seat 2: Ghendrik ( $458.10 )
mc_raven posts small blind [$2].
Ghendrik posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ Ac Ks Ad 4s ]
Xaston calls [$4].
sookie1 raises [$18].
denno88 folds.
mc_raven folds.
Ghendrik folds.
Xaston raises [$56].
sookie1 calls [$42].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 9d, 5c ]
Xaston bets [$124].
sookie1 calls [$124].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
Xaston bets [$372].
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Postby Ojingo » Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:05 am

Man, you play really different than I do. I understand that 6-handed $400 plo is different than $200 full ring, but still. Here's my take on the hands:

Hand 1) My first reaction is to checkraise the turn. However, that means he won't give you more money if he's on a bluff, and he will call (and put you in a tough spot on the river) with a set or a baby flush. Maybe your line is good, although you must have a decent read to justify not folding the flop.

Hand 2) You seem to bet ragged flops from EP into a pf raisor when you have nothing and checkraise when you have it. (At least, that was what struck me as a pattern in the hands you posted). If that is really habitual, then an observant opponent will take advantage. Anyway, after you get called on the flop, what do you put your opponent on?

Hand 3) I would bet the turn, maybe $60. As played, I think the river bet is fine.

Hand 4) I wouldn't invest the least bit in this hand after seeing that flop. The river bet is ok, although you are probably going to get called.

Hand 5) Probably ok against the right type of opponent

Hand 6) Fine

Hand 7) I would probably not reraise pf. I trust you're not questioning your flop play?

Hand 8) I guess you win this often enough to make it +EV, although I would be wary of the fact that your opponent has you likely pegged for aces and will therefore be more inclined to call with his straight. If he has a small flush so be it.

Anyway, all of the hands you posted are quite hard to judge without reads or a feel for the situation, so my comments may be far off.

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Postby Kuso » Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:53 am

hand 1 (all i have time for now)... WA/WB. i dump it on the flop and look for better opportunities. if i play it, i CR on the flop and don't put any more money in after that. a CR on the turn is definitely a more refined move, but that is A LOT of money to put in the pot on a semi-bluff. fold on the flop seems about right to me.

also, if possible, could you try to do one or two (preferably one) hand(s) per post so that we don't have to scroll up and down so much to find the HH info.

btw... glad you're playing Omaha again.
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Postby briachek » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:09 pm

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:28 pm

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