KK no good.....EVER!!!

[MTPaid]

Just got knocked out of 2 consecutive tournies w/ KK. One on the 1st hand.

vs 99 with a 9 on the turn and vs AQ both all-in preflop on the 1st hand of the tourny. Always an Ace on the flop. The last 11 times I've had KK I've lost 7 times winning only 2x when I got folds preflop and once against AA when I flopped a King for a set.

Two days ago I opened my mouth to tell someone how bad my Kings were running and a few hands later I got knocked out of the tournament by that same player. The hands......I had QQ, he had KK.

[tarheel1]

this might cheer you up
http://www.parttimepoker.com/poker-humo ... rrible.htm

[MTPaid]

Finally someone agrees. The best starting hand is 66. Easy to get away from, but a monster when you hit your set.

[MTPaid]

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING, but here are the only 3 big pairs I saw tonight.

Second hand of the tournament. I'm not involved, but keep an eye on the guy who won this hand.

NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $5+$1 (Real Money), #160,402,163
**Easy Money $100 added Multi Table Tournament, 22 Feb 2006 8:02 PM ET



Seat 1: busteronni ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 2: JAWS1310 ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 3: rdpaxman ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 4: Serenityboy2 ($1,460 in chips)
Seat 5: PayMeDaMoney ($1,540 in chips)
Seat 7: gillyboo ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 8: tuff_gurl ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 9: redsxnation1 ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 10: BillyDxxx ($1,500 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
PayMeDaMoney posts blind ($10)
gillyboo posts blind ($20).

PRE-FLOP
tuff_gurl bets $100
redsxnation1 calls $100
BillyDxxx folds
busteronni calls $100
JAWS1310 folds
rdpaxman calls $100
Serenityboy2 folds
PayMeDaMoney folds
gillyboo folds.

FLOP [5h][6s]
tuff_gurl bets $300
redsxnation1 folds
busteronni calls $300
rdpaxman folds.

TURN
tuff_gurl bets $500
busteronni bets $1,000
tuff_gurl bets $600 and is all-in
busteronni calls $100 and is all-in.

RIVER


SHOWDOWN
tuff_gurl shows [Kh]
busteronni shows [As]
busteronni wins $3,230. (TOTALLY F'ING DISGUSTING!!!)



SUMMARY
Dealer: Serenityboy2
Pot: $3,230
busteronni, bets $1,500, collects $3,230, net $1,730
JAWS1310, loses $0
rdpaxman, loses $100
Serenityboy2, loses $0
PayMeDaMoney, loses $10
gillyboo, loses $20
tuff_gurl, loses $1,500
redsxnation1, loses $100
BillyDxxx, loses $0

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Now I'm unfortunate enough to pick up those dreaded Aces and look who I'm against. Now I already know this guy is a fish and a bullsh*t artist from the previous hand.

NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $5+$1 (Real Money), #160,540,858
**Easy Money $100 added Multi Table Tournament, 22 Feb 2006 8:39 PM ET



Seat 1: busteronni ($2,010 in chips)
Seat 2: JAWS1310 ($2,135 in chips)
Seat 3: rdpaxman ($1,845 in chips)
Seat 4: Serenityboy2 ($1,310 in chips)
Seat 5: PayMeDaMoney ($2,580 in chips)
Seat 6: Mr Jules ($1,720 in chips)
Seat 7: gillyboo ($2,480 in chips)
Seat 9: redsxnation1 ($2,275 in chips)
Seat 10: Si Slick ($25 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
Si Slick bets $25 and is all-in
busteronni posts blind ($100).

PRE-FLOP
JAWS1310 calls $100
rdpaxman folds
Serenityboy2 folds
PayMeDaMoney bets $400
Mr Jules folds
gillyboo folds
redsxnation1 folds
busteronni calls $300
JAWS1310 folds.

FLOP [2s][8s]
busteronni checks
PayMeDaMoney bets $700
busteronni bets $1,400
PayMeDaMoney bets $1,480 and is all-in
busteronni calls $210 and is all-in.

TURN


RIVER


SHOWDOWN
PayMeDaMoney shows [Ad]
Si Slick shows [As]
busteronni shows [8h]
PayMeDaMoney wins $570
busteronni wins $4,045
Si Slick wins $100.



SUMMARY
Dealer: redsxnation1
Pot: $4,715
busteronni, bets $2,010, collects $4,045, net $2,035
JAWS1310, loses $100
rdpaxman, loses $0
Serenityboy2, loses $0
PayMeDaMoney, bets $2,580, collects $570, net -$2,010
Mr Jules, loses $0
gillyboo, loses $0
redsxnation1, loses $0
Si Slick, bets $25, collects $100, net $75

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Now short stacked I don't have much of a choice, but look who I'm up against again.

NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $5+$1 (Real Money), #160,564,563
**Easy Money $100 added Multi Table Tournament, 22 Feb 2006 8:46 PM ET



Seat 1: busteronni ($5,495 in chips)
Seat 2: JAWS1310 ($2,635 in chips)
Seat 3: rdpaxman ($1,695 in chips)
Seat 4: Serenityboy2 ($1,060 in chips)
Seat 5: PayMeDaMoney ($470 in chips)
Seat 6: Mr Jules ($1,045 in chips)
Seat 7: gillyboo ($2,480 in chips)
Seat 8: Acesman14 ($2,630 in chips)
Seat 9: redsxnation1 ($1,600 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
PayMeDaMoney posts blind ($50)
Mr Jules posts blind ($100).

PRE-FLOP
gillyboo folds
Acesman14 folds
redsxnation1 folds
busteronni bets $420
JAWS1310 folds
rdpaxman calls $420
Serenityboy2 folds
PayMeDaMoney bets $420 and is all-in
Mr Jules folds
busteronni calls $50
rdpaxman bets $370
busteronni calls $320.

FLOP [7h][Ts]
busteronni checks
rdpaxman bets $400
busteronni bets $1,200
rdpaxman calls $505 and is all-in.

TURN


RIVER


SHOWDOWN
busteronni shows [Th]
rdpaxman shows [Ks]
PayMeDaMoney shows [Ac]
busteronni wins $295
busteronni wins $2,450
busteronni wins $1,510.



SUMMARY
Dealer: Serenityboy2
Pot: $4,255
busteronni, bets $1,990, collects $4,255, net $2,265
JAWS1310, loses $0
rdpaxman, loses $1,695
Serenityboy2, loses $0
PayMeDaMoney, loses $470
Mr Jules, loses $100
gillyboo, loses $0
Acesman14, loses $0
redsxnation1, loses $0

F'ING DISGUSTING. 3 BIG PAIRS SHOWN THE WHOLE TOURNAMENT AND THE SAME SHMUCK CRACKS ALL 3. DON'T THESE HANDS EVER WIN????

[MTPaid]

Come play a tournament or two with me tonight. I am completely convinced that whatever cards I have are 2nd best even when I have monsters. Why? Because I'm usually right. Kings and Aces aren't winning, when I want a call, they fold, when I want a fold, they call. Take a stroll through my mind while I am playing. I'm going WAY too long with this and probably writing more for my own review than anything else, but if you happen to get through this, tell me what you think. It does get interesting at the end though.

-First time in the blinds 10/20. Folded to Button who pushes in for $1500. Just aggrivating. Of course I fold.

-Next time in the big blind 15/30. CO opens for $300 (10x BB). Sure, you can have my blind too.

-Limp (30) in MP w/ suited connectors. Just me and BB to flop w/ junk. I bet and take a very small pot.

-One of the fish dumps most of his stack to another big fish because he can't let go of 66 with 3 overcards showing. Winning fish can't get go of Any Ace and hits on the turn. Why can't I collect any of these chips. I need a hand first because they won't fold.

-BB again (30). One limper (big fish from last hand) and SB raises to 130. I fold and fish calls.
Flop is [Ah][As].
Check-Check. .
SB bets 150 and called. River .
SB bets 150 again, fish raises to 500, and all the money eventually goes in.
SB [Kd]
Fish [9s]

SOB, 1st pair of Kings I see tonight. Hits the boat on the river and still loses. I'm not involved in the hand, but DO THEY EVER WIN??? Any Ace takes it.

Hand Observed: 4 way pot with both blinds, UTG, and myself all limping (30).
Pot is 120 FLOP [9h][Jc]
Blind both check and UTG bets 300 (almost 3x pot). I'm gone, but BB calls.
Pot is 720 TURN
BB check, UTG all-in for 400 more which gets immediately called.
BB has [Jh]
UTG Bluffer has [7h]

What the hell are these people thinking? Playing that hand UTG, then bluffing off your entire stack without an out???? This is a serious question. What was he thinking?

I'm going nowhere yet. 1395 and not even a decent steal attempt.

The guy that lost with [Kd] before actually has 175 left and pushes all-in UTG+1 with blinds 25/50. He is called only by MP2.
UTG+1 [Kh] KINGS AGAIN!!!
MP2 [Qs]

Board: [Jd][9c] Open-ended str8 draw. Again not involved in the hand, but cringing. Turn . River

STOP THE PRESSES!!! KK holds up!!! Even this time it's scary as hell though.

Blinds 25/50 and I've got [Qs] UTG. Well, it's not as bad as KK. I raise to 200. Folded to BB (guy with KK twice) who pushes for 375. Can he have it again? I call and he shows [Tc]. He actually flops a gutshot straight draw, but my big pair holds up. WHEW!!

Stack up to 1815 then 1865 after it's folded to me in BB.

Big fish limps UTG with K9 offsuit and bluffs off everyone, but flush draw. K-high is enough to win at showdown. It's good to be the fish. He's got over 4000 playing that way and is the table leader.

[7s] for me and I limp for 50 as MP3. This looked like a good hand to attempt a steal, but big fish is in the BB and I know he isn't folding. This can only get me in trouble, right? I see the flop with both blinds.
Flop [Ah][2h]. Big Fish bets 50 into 150 pot. Gargbage. I raise to 200, but if he calls I'm done. Amazingly he folds and I take it.

Stack at 2090

On a board of [Td][Th][Kc][6s], Big Fish calls down with [9h]. Do they have fold buttons?

Big Hand: Blinds 50/100 UTG bets 300, called by MP1, MP3 pushes for 975. This seems to be MP3's only move (he was the guy that pushed 1500 to get my 20 blind earlier), but he's shown a couple of solid hands so far. Of course both guys think they are good enough to call.
UTG has [8s]
MP1 has [Th] What?
MP3 has [Qs] and takes the pot with Ace on the flop.

Again I have to wonder what the hell these guys are thinking. Raising with 88 isn't good, but not horrible. When you get called and raised all-in though, you gotta let it go. MP1 was just a joke calling with that hand.

Big Fish catches again with Any Ace and takes another player's stack. He's up to 5000.

I finally have a steal opportunity in CO and take 150 in blinds with a 400 bet. SB says I must have had Tens or Jacks. I told him I had a Big Ace. What did I have? Q8 offsuit.

Chip stack at 1940. Still not going anywhere. Big FIsh has over 6000 and is more than 2x anyone else at the table.

Big FIsh bets 3x BB UTG with AJ, hits an Ace on the flop and is called down amazingly by 44 w/ all overcards on board. Again, what the hell are they thinking?


It's not KK, but it's close enough
Guy with 44 from previous hand bets 300 (2xBB) UTG+1, re-raised to 500 by BB which is called.
FLOP [2s][Ks]
BB checks - UTG+1 is all-in. BB calls and shows [Kc] for trip Kings. UTG+1 shows another small pair. [6h]. Since there are now 3 Kings on the board, I'm sure you can guess what the turn card was. and it's OVER!!!! UNREAL!!!

I'm able to limp/steal another one with a scary flop.
Stack size 2165 and holding. The Big Fish is over 8000 now.

Take a flop HU in the Blinds w/ [9h].
FLOP [9c][2s]. SB bets 300. I raise to 600 and he folds.

Stack size starting to look formidable at 2615.

The Big Fish finally gets hooked for 1500 when he won't let go of Any Ace.

[As] UTG+2 for me. Blinds 75/150. I want to catch a fish who's been very aggressive lately. I limp, but it gets folded to blinds who both come in. Not what I wanted. Flop is all rags and I bet 500 into a 450 pot because I don't feel like playing anymore and take it. Some of the big pairs are actually holding up tonight.

The guy with one move pushes his over 3000 in a couple of times to take 225 in blinds. I don't get the strategy, but it seems to be working because he's at 3600 now with just one move.

SB pushes all-in vs my BB and I can't call. Still can't push my stack over 3000.

For the 2nd time in a row in SB I fold to BB who I haven't seen play a hand yet. I was thinking about stealing with [3s], but I'm glad I didn't when he shows [Ks]. I've let him pass twice, I have to steal next time.

We're past the break and blinds are 100/200 w/ about 50 left. 33 get paid.

I try another steal for 500, but BB calls. He gives it up to a continuation bet on the flop though. Finally break the 3000 barrier.
Stack size 3215

Here is a key hand a little later that cost me 400 in chips.
I have [7d] in the SB and complete for a 4 way flop that comes [Kh][Tc]. I check top pair to see who bets. I may be outkicked. 1st limper bets 200, 2nd limper calls 200. Pot is 1200. 200 bet seemed weak so I call. Pretty sure 2nd limper is on flush draw. TURN . Check-Check- Bet 400. Looks like he has the flush and he wants to be called. I fold.

Would you have played it differently? Didn't want to throw away too many chips in case I was out-kicked. I couldn't really defend against a flush draw here, could I have?

All-in Preflop:
[Jh] vs [Js] and when the flops the favorite is now 80% to win, BUT this is the Pokerroom network after-all and the runner-runner hearts knocks the heavy favorite out of the tournament.

Big Fish is now over 11,000 and playing every pot. A strange and irritating thing has happened. I have 3115 and I'm 25th with 41 left, but I'm next to last at my table. All the small stacks are sitting at the same 2 tables. WTF???

I limp w/ [Tc] UTG and Mr 1 move pushes in AGAIN. I have him covered by 15 chips. I can't call this, but I will catch him.

I just turned the K-high flush in an un-raised pot from the BB, but I only profit 600 from it.

The very next hand I am in the SAME situation with the BB again where I said I would steal. He still hasn't played hardly anything. I double the BB and he finally decides to push all-in the 1st time I decide to steal against him. Could he put me on the steal? I let him pass 2x!! I have junk so I fold. He will be up over 5000 in just a few hands and I will be dead last at the table then.

Stack size 2915. Still in the middle of the pack, yet last at the table. AND they moved the chip leader to my table. Two stacks over 10,000 now. 1st and 2nd place.

NOW THE INSANITY BEGINS

Blinds 150/300.
UTG+2 raises to 1000 - SB (Big Fish) is in for 2000 - UTG+2 pushes all-in and Big Fish calls.
UTG+2 [Kc]
Big Fish [Qc]
He actually has a hand this time, but nobody could put him on it with the way he's played. It gets cracked with the on the river. 5300 pot.


Big Fish on the button open-limps for 300 - SB raises to 1000 - and Big Fish is all-in for 5830 more (tilt maybe?) - SB calls for 2465 more.
Big Fish [Ad] I don't get that play at all, limping on the button.
SB [Jd]
on the flop and the marginal favorite is down for the 2nd hand in a row.


UTG min raises to 600 - Big Fish (CO) raises to 900 (Yup - 3 hands in a row for him) - SB is all-in for 1760 - Only Big Fish calls.
Big Fish [Ks] Are you kidding me???
SB [Qd]
The Queens stand up this time.

At this point we are down to 37, just 3 out of the money and I'm in the late 20's in position. I lose the blinds and I'm down to 2465.

Mr. Tight to my left catches fire all of a sudden and is up over 10,000 now. We go a full orbit without much action, but Mr All-in pulls his one move again uncalled.

Blinds are now 200/400
[Kc] UTG and I raise to 1000. My only caller is Big Fish. Not who I wanted.
Board comes [4s][2s][Js][8s] and is checked down. I didn't want to do anything stupid cause he could have a garbage Ace. A bluff here is for the rest of my stack. Pot ends up split as neither of us has a spade. He actually has [7d].

VERY NEXT HAND
[Ks] again in the BB. Folded to Mr All-in in CO who has me covered and makes his move again. Gotta be a steal. NO WAY I'M FOLDING, RIGHT? I call, he shows [Jh] and it holds up. I'm gone.

OK, so this seems to be almost every tournament I play lately. I can't get out of this rut, but I can't see where I made any huge mistakes. Why am I posting this here in my thread about big pairs?

The next tournament tonight I get busted when I catch QQ and JJ back to back. The JJ hand I end up against KK which finally holds up, but against me this time.

[JayB]

[Cactus Jack]

[MTPaid]

Lost my computer for a week and a half. Played a couple of times live with decent success since then. Tonight was my 1st time back online. Figured things might be different after a break.

Only KK I watch is all-in preflop vs. AK. Of course the A on the turn.

I went out with [Qd] in the Big Blind. 50/100 and I have about 1400 left. UTG+2 raises to 200. I'm the only caller. Flop is [2d][Jd]. I check, he bets 200, and I move all-in for about 1200 into a 650 pot. He calls and shows [Ad]. Since I am playing online you can guess how this one ended. Running diamonds and I'm gone. So much for taking a break. A bad play all around once again rewarded.

[MTPaid]

-Not involved in this 1st one, but 1st time I see KK all-in tonight preflop, it's vs. 99 and 9 hits the turn. Kings suck again.

-Not involved in this one either, but HOLY COW I had to post it because Kings held up. Not without a scare though......
[Ks] vs [2c]
Flop is [Kh][5s] - I know the guy in the BB has Kings since he had re-raised and then just checked the flop. So damn obvious, but his check worked as the other guy bluffed all-in, but wait on the turn before the river is a blank.
Ok, I'm fair here....big pairs 1-1

-I'm in the BB w/ QQ and only 1435 left after I post the BB of 200. CU opens for 500 and of course I have to push with this hand. He turns over AJo and the board is all low. This could be my lucky night.
QQ 1-0
KK 1-1

-I've got Aces! Here's the real test. Blinds 200/400. UTG raises to 1000. I push on the button w/ 2470. He has to call. Looks like a steal and he does call with [Kd]. He turns a flush draw, but I hold up. The jinx is OVER!
QQ 1-0
KK 1-1
AA 1-0

-I made the money and my slump is over. I catch AA again and I feel damn confident now. Blinds are 400/800 and I'm in the SB. MP opens for 800 and he only has about 3700 behind it. I push for another 3040 and he calls and turns over [6c] and I'm feeling REAL good about this...............

UNTIL the flop.......[6D][QS][8D]

Does this S*** ever end? The odds would say I'm in for a HUGE winning streak, but everything can and does seem to happen online.
QQ 1-0
KK 1-1
AA 1-1

[MTPaid]

[The Golden 1]

[MTPaid]

I know I said that I was done with this thread, but this one was just too disgusting not to post. The villain here was calling every single bet and sucking out every hand, hence the large stack. He was turning over K4, Q3, 94 so there was no question he was calling and I had him crushed. This was so ugly that everyone else at the table bashed him after I left.

Hand History:
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NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $5+$1 (Real Money), #254,905,431
**Easy Money $100 added Multi Table Tournament, 17 Mar 2006 8:47 PM ET



Seat 1: Corra_Snake ($1,075 in chips)
Seat 2: PayMeDaMoney ($3,685 in chips)
Seat 3: twostix ($1,460 in chips)
Seat 4: TC___ ($3,755 in chips)
Seat 5: Jankow x ($3,710 in chips)
Seat 6: Wingfield666 ($10,590 in chips)
Seat 7: Si Slick ($1,030 in chips)
Seat 8: Smokinjoe222 ($3,510 in chips)
Seat 9: cgorry ($4,510 in chips)
Seat 10: xdjay8X ($3,695 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
TC___ posts blind ($50), Jankow x posts blind ($100).

PRE-FLOP
Wingfield666 bets $200,
Si Slick folds,
Smokinjoe222 folds,
cgorry folds,
xdjay8X folds,
Corra_Snake folds,
PayMeDaMoney bets $3,685 and is all-in,
twostix folds, TC___ folds,
Jankow x folds,
Wingfield666 calls $3,485.

FLOP [8d][6d]


TURN


RIVER


SHOWDOWN
PayMeDaMoney shows [Kc]
Wingfield666 shows [Jh]
Wingfield666 wins $7,520.

[stickdude]

You might like this one from a SnG last night, then.

Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
$0.20 - NL - 9 Seats 7958444-30 Holdem No Limit 50/100
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Hand Start.
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Seat 1 : skimax 2k has $1,410
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Seat 2 : unker has $1,420
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Seat 3 : Foker Pace has $2,370
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Seat 4 : stickdude90 has $1,450
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Seat 5 : LouieIA has $2,970
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Seat 6 : C_Phipps1 has $1,990
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Seat 8 : rommie_5 has $2,390
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Seat 9 : perldog007 has $4,000
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : unker is the dealer.
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Foker Pace posted small blind.
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : stickdude90 posted big blind.
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Game [30] started with 8 players.
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Mar 20 04:02:41] : Seat 4 : stickdude90 has
[Mar 20 04:02:48] : LouieIA called 100 and raised 500
[Mar 20 04:02:53] : C_Phipps1 folded.
[Mar 20 04:03:08] : rommie_5 has 10 seconds to respond.
[Mar 20 04:03:23] : rommie_5 folded.
[Mar 20 04:03:26] : perldog007 folded.
[Mar 20 04:03:32] : skimax 2k called 600
[Mar 20 04:03:35] : unker folded.
[Mar 20 04:03:37] : Foker Pace folded.
[Mar 20 04:03:41] : stickdude90 called 500 and raised 850 and is All-in
[Mar 20 04:03:45] : LouieIA called 850 and raised 1,520 and is All-in
[Mar 20 04:03:49] : skimax 2k called 810 and is All-in
[Mar 20 04:03:49] : Showdown!
[Mar 20 04:03:49] : Seat 4 : stickdude90 has
[Mar 20 04:03:51] : Seat 1 : skimax 2k has
[Mar 20 04:03:51] : Seat 5 : LouieIA has
[Mar 20 04:04:00] : Board cards [[Qs] ]
[Mar 20 04:04:00] : Seat 5 : LouieIA has
[Mar 20 04:04:00] : LouieIA has Two Pair: Kings and Jacks
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : Seat 4 : stickdude90 has
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : stickdude90 has Full House : Queens full of Jacks
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : stickdude90 wins 80 with Full House : Queens full of Jacks
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : Seat 5 : LouieIA has
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : LouieIA has Two Pair: Kings and Jacks
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : Seat 1 : skimax 2k has
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : skimax 2k has Two Pair: Aces and Jacks
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : Seat 4 : stickdude90 has
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : stickdude90 has Full House : Queens full of Jacks
[Mar 20 04:04:01] : stickdude90 wins 4,280 with Full House : Queens full of Jacks
[Mar 20 04:04:15] : Hand is over.

I mean, how often do you get to crack both Aces and Kings with your lowly pocket Queens??

[MTPaid]

Yeah baby!

Now that's what I'm talking about. AA...KK....never had a chance!