Good for the meta game good for the soul

by **GooperMC** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:46 am

I don't have PTO in front of my so I am going to do this from memory. TG was at the table so he can correct this if I get anything wrong.

I am in SB with [Qh]

. Folded to me and I call (I usually would raise this but I was so surprised that it would fold to me in a full ring that I wasn't thinking). BB checks.

Flop is [Ac]

. I check, BB min bets, I call.

Turn is a brick. I check, BB checks.

River is a [8c]

. I bet pot.

BB is a pseudo calling station. He plays almost everything pre-flop but is more selective about what he shows down. Stats were something like VP$IP 70ish WtSD 30, W$SD 50.

The BB ended up berating me for my play, and verbally we went back and forth for a little while. About 5 hands later I pick up AA3, raise, and the SB (a reasonable player) re-raises with KKJ3. I am convinced this was at least partially because of the QQ hand and the table talk afterward (and because of the nasty suckout I posted in my journal).

Two questions
- What do you think about the play on the original hand?
- How much do you think the original hand contributed to the second hand? TG I am esp. interested in your take on this, since you were at the table.

by **TomG** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:29 am

I had a bunch of tables going so I missed the first hand. I noticed there was a lot of table chat going on afterwards, but I wasn't able to follow along. I grabbed the HHs from PTO for ya. Here's your play heads-up against the BB. It looks like you played it perfectly reasonable to me. Also I agree with your assessment of Moimeme.

Game #1608682143: Omaha H/L PL ($0.50/$1) - 2006/02/19 - 19:53:41 (UK)
Table "Gulfport" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: seppl7 ($53.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Che84 ($91.12 in chips)
Seat 3: _lookout_ ($100.38 in chips)
Seat 4: SomeYahoo ($96.63 in chips)
Seat 5: ferg1 ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 6: TurtlSoup ($159.11 in chips)
Seat 7: Moimeme ($98.69 in chips)
Seat 8: ZLadyDi ($10.12 in chips)
Seat 9: 5thSTpimp ($134 in chips)
Seat 10: donator ($99.50 in chips)
TurtlSoup: posts small blind $0.50
Moimeme: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to SomeYahoo [6d]

ZLadyDi: folds
ZLadyDi sits out
5thSTpimp: folds
donator: folds
seppl7: folds
ZLadyDi sits back
Che84: folds
_lookout_: folds
SomeYahoo: folds
ferg1: folds
TurtlSoup: calls $0.50
Moimeme: checks
----- FLOP ----- [As]

TurtlSoup: checks
Moimeme: bets $1
TurtlSoup: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [As]

TurtlSoup: checks
Moimeme: checks
----- RIVER ----- [As]

TurtlSoup: bets $4
Moimeme: calls $4
----- SHOW DOWN -----
TurtlSoup: shows [Qc]

(A Pair of Queens, Ace high)
Moimeme: shows [Jd]

(A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
TurtlSoup collects $5.75 from Main pot
Moimeme collects $5.75 from Main pot

Then here we are about 3 minutes later... I saw this push and gave Gooper a "nice hand" afterwards. Honestly, I think ZLadyDi's push is more an example of a small stack just wanting to push all-in and be done with it. If you noticed, she had AA23 the previous hand and pushed all-in with that and won 1/2. So I would guess she enjoyed the all-in experience and wanted to give it another try. I'm pretty sure the two hands are indepedent and did not impact each other in any way, but I could be wrong.

Game #1608682163: Omaha H/L PL ($0.50/$1) - 2006/02/19 - 19:56:03 (UK)
Table "Gulfport" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: seppl7 ($53.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Che84 ($91.12 in chips)
Seat 3: _lookout_ ($100.38 in chips)
Seat 4: SomeYahoo ($96.63 in chips)
Seat 5: ferg1 ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 6: TurtlSoup ($158.86 in chips)
Seat 7: Moimeme ($100.44 in chips)
Seat 8: ZLadyDi ($9.12 in chips)
Seat 9: 5thSTpimp ($134 in chips)
Seat 10: donator ($99.50 in chips)
ZLadyDi: posts small blind $0.50
5thSTpimp: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to SomeYahoo [9c]

donator: folds
seppl7: folds
Che84: folds
_lookout_: folds
SomeYahoo: folds
ferg1: calls $1
TurtlSoup: raises to $4.50
Moimeme: folds
ZLadyDi: raises to $9.12 and is all-in
5thSTpimp: folds
ferg1: calls $8.12
TurtlSoup: raises to $37.48
ferg1: folds
Returned uncalled bets $28.36 to TurtlSoup
----- FLOP ----- [7d]