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Hand reading quiz

Postby GooperMC » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:15 am

Game #1666921253: Omaha H/L PL ($1/$2) - 2006/02/24 - 17:58:17 (ET)
Table "Assault" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 4: Hursty30 ($80.38 in chips)
Seat 6: TurtlSoup ($311.63 in chips)
Seat 7: Googi sits out
Hursty30: posts small blind $1
TurtlSoup: posts big blind $2

----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to TurtlSoup [Jc] [9d] [4c] [Th]
Googi sits back
Hursty30: calls $1
TurtlSoup: checks

----- FLOP ----- [7h] [9h] [4d]
Hursty30: checks
TurtlSoup: checks

----- TURN ----- [7h] [9h] [4d] [8s]
Hursty30: checks
TurtlSoup: bets $4
Hursty30: raises to $16
TurtlSoup: calls $12

----- RIVER ----- [7h] [9h] [4d] [8s] [Tc]
Hursty30: checks
TurtlSoup: ?????

This is a hand reading quiz. I wasn't smart enough to figure out what he had but I think I should have.

Background. He is a mostly passive calling station. I have been destroying him because he doesn't know how to fold the 2nd (or 3rd, or 10th) best hand on the river. Example, I am IP with a 7 high flush. He checks to me I bet half the pot and he calls with top and middle pair. However, he is willing to lead with what he thinks is the best hand.

Two questions:
1) What do you think he has?
2) What is your play?
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Postby Kuso » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:16 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Kuso » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:07 pm

wwcrd?

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Re: Hand reading quiz

Postby TomG » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:16 pm

I think his river check almost surely is a sign of weakness. I agree with Kuso and would likely put him on 56xx and now he's skirred that you made a bigger straight. Against most opponent's I usually bet the river. He's probably calling most of the time and most of the time we're chopping. That's fine. I think a check-raise is very remote and I'll take some fold equity over letting the river go check-check and him winning half with some lame-ass low. If he's calling regardless, then I guess checking through is best since the only real upside to betting is the fold equity against a weak low.
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Postby GooperMC » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:19 pm

Not 56.
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Postby TomG » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:35 pm

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Postby Kuso » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:38 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby GooperMC » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:28 pm

He had JT for the same str8 as I did, but he had a low to go with it :(.

I don't think that he would lead the turn with any other hand. Remember I said he calls with marginal hands and bets with what he thinks is the best hand. On that board even he wasn't bad enough to think 56, or 2 pair + flush draw would be good.

In the hand I did bet the river which I think was a mistake. He was a calling station so I think he calls the river with almost anything that he calls the turn with so I think the off chance that he river a large str8 isn’t worth the small amount of fold equity I had.
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Postby JDLush » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:50 pm

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:19 pm

I wouldn't have bet the river, I don't think. Very rare you see someone pump it on a re-raise on that board without some sort of low, and if he has a low he's calling anyhow. 56 is about the only thing that might consider dumping here if you bet (even that he might call if he's a station) to promote your hand into the full pot. Otherwise I just can't see a hand he can have that he'll fold to river pressure that he would've played this way.

His river check is horrible, semi-dependent on what his low was.
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