Can I call here?

[Stoneburg]

Table is extremely LAGgy, several players with PFR over 20, one with 50.

Seat 2: acekingsley ( $35.33 )
Seat 7: Hero ( $31.95 )
Seat 10: Zapphire ( $56.15 )
Seat 5: Suited_Cnctr ( $32.92 )
Seat 1: gundog ( $27.95 )
Seat 4: SteveMather ( $18.16 )
Seat 3: Bigchaz ( $18.65 )
Seat 9: bobkill ( $24 )
Seat 8: yanii ( $9.25 )
Seat 6: ooosna9 ( $31.05 )

Dealt to Hero
yanii folds.
bobkill folds.
Zapphire raises [$0.50].
gundog folds.
acekingsley folds.
Bigchaz folds.
SteveMather raises [$1.85].
Suited_Cnctr folds.
ooosna9 calls [$1.75].
Hero calls [$1.60].
Zapphire calls [$1.35].

** Dealing Flop **
ooosna9 bets [$3.27].
Hero calls [$3.27].
Zapphire calls [$3.27].
SteveMather calls [$3.27].

** Dealing Turn **
ooosna9 bets [$19.48].
Hero ???

[briachek]

[Ojingo]

[GooperMC]

Pre-Flop
Fold. IMHO the pre-flop call is a horrible.

Flop
Fold. I would push rather then call on the flop but I prefer folding.

Turn
Fold. There is now a 4 card str8 and you have bottom set, easy fold.

[Aisthesis]

[Stoneburg]

Yeah I trapped myself with this hand. Hadn't had any decent starters for a long time and every pot was raised preflop.

When he underbet the pot into me I thought he was on a draw, I didn't want to raise because if someone re-raises behind me I have to fold and I will have put in more than half my stack, so I figured I would call and see what happened behind me. When nobody raised I was pretty sure my bottom set was good since this was a very aggressive table, I think top two or better would have raised. The flop was just a tad too interesting... bottom set, tptk and a backdoor nut draw.

On the turn I figure he has made his straight since he now makes a real bet. Turns out he has a naked straight with no re-draws (QT97) so I had an amazing 40% equity to my own surprise when I checked it. Obviously I was hoping that the guys behind me would follow and sweeten my odds but that's really unlikely, when they just call that small flop bet I figure they have nothing.

[Aisthesis]

[Stoneburg]

Yeah I really shouldn't deviate from my predefined hand selection. I'm not good enough post flop to play marginal hands. Good hands generate easy decisions. you either have the nuts or you're drawing to them. Bottom set? Who ever won a big pot with bottom set or a non-nut straight? Stupid.


Here's another dubious preflop call:

Seat 2: dacity ( $16.42 )
Seat 8: VIPHER ( $30.04 )
Seat 9: scootl ( $36.24 )
Seat 10: Teh_Burs ( $7.61 )
Seat 5: Hero ( $42.18 )
Seat 6: HARRISON88 ( $52.60 )
Seat 3: plccbly ( $14.43 )
Seat 4: Chotilee ( $12.52 )
Seat 7: WolfenXXX ( $9.05 )
Seat 1: Balage ( $24.75 )

Dealt to Hero

scootl folds.
Teh_Burs calls [$0.25].
Balage folds.
dacity calls [$0.25].
plccbly raises [$1.35].
Chotilee folds.
Hero calls [$1.25].
WolfenXXX folds.
Teh_Burs calls [$1.10].
dacity calls [$1.10].

** Dealing Flop **
kyttykat has joined the table.
Hero checks.
Teh_Burs checks.
dacity checks.
plccbly bets [$5.40].
Hero calls [$5.40].
Teh_Burs folds.
dacity folds.

** Dealing Turn **
Hero bets [$15.65].
plccbly is all-In.
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
Hero shows [ Jc, 6h, Td, 8d ] a straight, nine to king.
plccbly doesn't show [ 7h, 8c, Ah, As ] a straight, seven to jack.
Hero wins $7.97 from side pot #1 with a straight, nine to king.
Hero wins $30.26 from the main pot with a straight, nine to king.

I called because:
1. I had him on AA
2. He can't let go of AA

I probably shouldn't have called because:
1. I'm in horrible position, especially with the raiser to my immediate right. His CB's will go through me and might get check/raised
2. Myhand isn't very good

Post flop I calculate my outs wrong thinking the J gives me a straight, so I make it 11 straight outs + trips/two-pairs. Either way only 4 outs are to the nuts and I think I should be folding (preflop and on the flop). On the turn I actually think I have the straight.

Of course I end up winning the hand. PLO = bizarro land.

[Felonius_Monk]