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Postby euri10 » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:55 am

and finally what do you think of this ?
I had a tough decision on the rive as I know MP2 is a though player.
Why does he call my bets all the way ?
Should I check the turn fearing a str8 ?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (8 handed)

SB ($13.75)
BB ($20.45)
UTG ($44.40)
UTG+1 ($44.25)
Hero ($88.80)
MP2 ($140.25)
CO ($60.70)
Button ($17.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Qh], [2c], [Tc], [Ts].
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) [5d], [Td], [Qs] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.85, MP2 calls $2.85, CO folds, SB calls $2.85, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($11.55) [Kc] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $11, MP2 calls $11, SB calls $10.40 (All-In).

River: ($43.95) [3s] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $12, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: $55.95

Results in white below:


Outcome: Hero wins $55.95.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:44 am

With two chasers it's hard to imagine that K didn't catch someone a straight, but then there is one check to you.... I don't mind leading on the turn here, you can always get away if someone raises and if not then you know you're likely still ahead. If there is no flush draw on the flop then the K has almost certainly caught a straight for someone and it's time to give up. On the river I think betting again is fine against a weak player who would pay off two pair or a low set, I would be tempted to go for something like $15-20. If you get called you're liable to be the winner but if he raises of course you can drop; there's a player all-in so he's less likely to bluff.

However, if you think this guy is decent there is absolutely nothing to be gained by betting the river. He can't bluff because there's a player all in, and if he's decent he knows this. Also, if he's decent, he won't be paying off a set of tens with a weaker hand anyhow (the only possibly exception is if he's drawing to a flush and the turn backed him into 2 pair). A small bet isn't too bad as a "blocker", though, but as I say it's probably a bit of a waste as you'll only lose it to a better hand or he'll fold a weaker one.

If it's heads up (i.e. no all-in player) then the situation is different and I like your bet a lot more; I would probably make it something like $15-20 just to announce that this isn't a hand he can bluff on.

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Postby briachek » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:07 pm

Since he folded, it looks like he was probably on a diamond flush draw with the possibility of the open ended straight draw with KJ so the king was no help. This is the type of hand that puts the importance of position in perspective. You wouldn't be having these problems if you acted behind MP2. Good job on the hand.
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